Powersellersunite.com (PSU) - New Posting Policies a Selective Police State?

[bbhc]

PSU's main problem is that they've focused on totally unimportant and useless issues (boycotts, eBay fees, eBay feedback, the online auction industry) while completely ignoring the #1 issue facing ecommerce businesses today: Google's failure to implement my (excellent) suggestion to increase the effectiveness (i.e. merchant conversion rates) of their 'Shopping' search by removing/banning all eBay and multi-seller venue listings from Google Product Search.


...off to register gmail address #1,577 and submit my 'declutter the shopping tab'  suggestion to Google again.  Sigh.

[chiquita]

That is a great idea bbhc. Good luck with the email campaign

You are totally correct about PSU's focus as well. Instead of whining about ebay this and that, they should have been proactive to encourage sellers towards independent selling, and not the alternatives.
 

[DeeCan]

I agree but I also think you are living in the now instead of researching what has transpirered over the past several months in regards to PSU. The eBay boycott is just what is happening today at PSU and I believe that PSU should bear the blame 1, 2, 3 months from now when the knee jerkers realize they pissed away a good thing or a chance to invest in themselves.

Joe, I have not the patience to wade through pages of moronic posts made those feeble minded idiots.  There are some good people there (and those I appreciated), but the majority of them are outright idiots.  What I'm seeing today gives me great insight into what has probably went on in the past.

Dee, I am not sure what cart system you are using but have you ever seen a PSU cart before? I will provide you with one of the Mods carts at PSU and hopefully you will find the time to place a comment. See thread below:

http://www.thecrabbyhost....elgatosdencom-t480.0.html

Yes, I've seen those carts.  And I have to ponder why anyone would use such.  And, from what I see on the forums, there is quite a bit of trouble with them.  And what do these people for those?  I would hope that it is extremely inexpensive.

Dee, have you ever seen or heard about the, you wash my back I'll wash yours between the PSU mods and the peebay forum? See thread below:

http://www.thecrabbyhost....72.0.html;msg8603#msg8603

Um, yeah, and again it proves stupidity and an inability of those to think for one's self.

Dee, have you been wondering about censorship at PSU, or lack there of in the case of Adam8x who I just took on yesterday over sexist comments to our very own Deb? See thread below:


http://powersellersunite.com/about15749-225.html

Considering that I received a "you are banned" email tonight, I think that PSU is no better than eBay; who, as you've seen, they share such hatred for.  I readily admit I have said some pretty tacky things there, but I have never stooped to such a low class level.  

PSU's censorship is based solely on how well you sheep at the place.  If you follow, you are welcomed.  If you don't, eventually they will find a way to get you out.  Again, that says that they can dish it out but they sure as hell can't take it.  Personally, for me, getting banned was nothing but a laugh.  I laughed because (1) the hypocrisy as relates to their posts regarding eBay's censorship and (2) just proof that they cannot handle me telling them the truth.  For all intents and purposes, they feared me.  

If PSU believes that they hurt me in any, shape, form or fashion, they need to think again.  I came in there from the beginning to prove a point and the point was, indeed, prove.  I appreciate the cooperation of PSU in proving me right.

Dee, have you ever read why this thread was started in the first place? Click on page one and have at it.

Someday, when I have time, I'll be prone to go the beginning.  I'll get back to you then.

I like your style Dee but think you are late to the show in this case. Please read and then tell me what you really think of PSU and the associated sites. I am sure your thoughts will be something to see and read!!!

It's never too late, Joe.  Didn't your mama ever teach you that?    As I said earlier, I believe that current post are pretty indicitave of what the past has held.  PSU and its associated sites are nothing but gathering holes for whiny, crybaby sissies who believe that the world owes them something.  So much so that PSU and its affiliates would be best off having trees for their logos for their members to hug.  

And, as a last thought, if they do not like the truth or are afraid of those willing to tell it (especially in ways that they cannot handle), then they should not blast eBay for doing the same.  For that matter, they shouldn't be online at all.  Personally, I would recommend a fairy tale forest somewhere.  But, then again, they don't exist, now do they?

P.S. Hey Dee??? What is a "wing ding"? I see you over at PSU and I am a bit confused as to what one of those has to do with the BOYcott.

   A penis, Joe, a penis.  A wing ding is a penis.   I'm not sure what it had to do with a boycott, but I wasn't real sure what my alleged large panties had to do with it either.  

[DeeCan]

You are totally correct about PSU's focus as well. Instead of whining about ebay this and that, they should have been proactive to encourage sellers towards independent selling, and not the alternatives.

But I was outright told at PSU (ahh, the days before my banning... ), that to encourage 11,000 little sites scattered everywhere was just wrong.  And why?  Because the little sellers couldn't do that.

Well, seems the little sellers can't do it anyway.  When you got folks who claim to be making only 32 cents off an item, they're not very business minded if they can't realize they need to stop selling that product.  Or, at the very least, attempt to sell it off eBay.  No, little sellers with little minds will not be successful.  Isn't this part of thinning that herd?

[2boysandtoys]

I had already forgotten about the wing-ding................... oh my - it's back!  Now - to me, that was absolutely hysterical!!

Hey - I know 2 fairy-tail forests that accept naive online sellers!!  Anybody wanna guess the names of the forests?  I've I had any point power, I'd smack some on ya!!! 

[chiquita]

Well Dee they want ya to buy into a PSU store. That is their alternative. 
I just want to know where in the hell were these people in 06? It's like the movie groundhog day.
Unbelievable.
 

[The Bar Keep]

Well I got myself banned from PSU tonight. Here is the PM that caused it all:

Bob,

Please ban my ID ASAP. I do not wish to have any association with a forum that condones sexist remarks as you yourself have now shown support by editing out one small remark without reading the thread. By you allowing that ID (Adamx8) to remain you are condoning black hat SEO as well as sexism. You are also subjecting your membership to dealing with these beliefs as shown in the thread I provided.

http://www.powersellersun...topic.php?p=143953#143953

You have not heard the last of this and will be hearing from me again as you continue to show selective censorship to support your own greed.

Good day to you!!!!

Joe

We all know what happened and we have screenshots to prove the remarks. Oh yeah PSUnite responded in the thread only after he banned my ID (he doesn't have a pair). Wait and see what happens at PSU next, I promise it will be fun to watch.

Edited to add:

In the end I scarificed my posting ID at PSU for one reason. I proved my point that that forum is solely in the hands of the Mods as well as accomplished something else. I sacrificed my ID to help online sellers and given the chance I would do it again, and again and again. So far my ID isn't banned  it's suspended but I am the type to never go back, you will never find me requesting reinstatement, it's not my style. If I saved one from the snake oil it was well worth it, making a statement and proving my point was priceless.

Joe - The Bar Keep

[2boysandtoys]

Ok....queen Numpty and it's Tuesday, so I get my stupid remark/question outa the way early.

I do not see suspended, banned or anything else with Joe's ID on PSU.  I was gonna frame his up like DeeCan, but am not seeing it....

What am I missing?   

I do appreciate DB's post - it's spot on.  When comments are modified, and/or posts are pulled, it makes those remaining look really stupid.  I do not understand why some folks are so dumb as to post 'what they think/feel in the moment'.

There are times when it would have been much easier to just tell someone to FOAD.  However, that's probably not award-winning material to place in a public forum.  Common decency, common respect and common sense just don't always seem to 'apply' for some folks.  I could go on and on and on about this but .... case in point.  Small minded folks posting how pious and good they are in a trashbin while bashing others and calling them trolls - right up there for the Darwin Boinktard of the year award.

Go Figure - human behavior is always an interesting subject.  I will say, my experience has been, those who whine the loudest have the lowest self-esteem.  Those who shout the loudest have the lowest self-worth.  And those who drink the kool-aid will not see truth if it knocks them on their backside!!   

[The Bar Keep]

I do appreciate DB's post - it's spot on.  When comments are modified, and/or posts are pulled, it makes those remaining look really stupid.  I do not understand why some folks are so dumb as to post 'what they think/feel in the moment'.

I agree with DB's posts on all instances but one. In this case we have an auction site owner with his own promotion thread separate from the one in question. I posted a link to that thread last night when I proved exactly what the title says on this thread. Allowing that thread to continue along with the link to his site in his siggy is morally wrong. At that point you are allowing your membership to be subjected to this wacko's way of think and how women should be treated.

Censorship is never a good thing but there comes a time morals overtake business. If you look at the thread I posted there was a few members who posted unaware of what had happened. Sorry people but in this case I choose morally what is right to protect my customers.

Erin,

You are correct I was not banned, I was suspended after I posted in the thread a second time calling on PSUNite to remove the poster. I was given no chance to respond to comments made by PSUNite even after he realized the comments were sexist. Sorry folks I do not shut up that easily and the fact is PSUNite has no balls by running away from his lack of control over his own forum.

If you read the thread Erin you will see that everything that happened to you was done to me, only difference is I made it a public affair for everyone to see. Selective censorship is alive and well at PSU.


Joe - The Bar Keep

P.S. I asked for my ID to be banned to prove a point. Sexism has now business in an online sellers forum. If that is a bad thing to do please point it out to me.

[The Tavern Wench]

I had already forgotten about the wing-ding................... oh my - it's back!  Now - to me, that was absolutely hysterical!!

Right after the wing-ding remark is when DeeCan was banned and ElGato posted that the thread needed to get back on topic.  He was immediately followed (as has become the habit) by High Fives from his 'yes man' DTD.

Immediately after that, the OP came in and thanked them for banning DeeCan and stopping her from hijacking his thread.  So that leaves me to question the reason that was given to me why she was banned.

Well in true Rat fashion  I proceeded to post and point out to the OP that DeeCan had not hijacked his thread, she had responded to his question politely.  PatchDog and Colonel Bricks were the hijackers.  The OP came back apologized and agreed.

Colonel Bricks then came back in and once again took the thread off topic to berate DeeCan, but his post still stands.  Where are the mods now?

Inquiring minds want to know...

At that point you are allowing your membership to be subjected to this wacko's way of think and how women should be treated.

And lets all remember...that wacko WAS NOT BANNED.  He was marked INACTIVE, which means he can request reinstatement at any time and it will most likely be granted. 



Deb - Joe's Rodent  

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[2boysandtoys]

Darn it......................it's only Tuesday and I'm not blond BUT I have to again use my numptiness.  I can't remember 5 mins. ago and with the speed over there, and my attempt to multi-task, I'm doomed to follow half of what goes on!!!

Now, I did go read and I did see the 'order' of things.  And - all of it is clearer - sort of.  The real answer, if anybody cares - the moderators have got to have and use consistently some set of guidelines.  The dude that called Deb a D..... - 100% agree....completely inappropriate.

But that dude that suggested 'women aren't leaders' should just be shot.  (Figuratively).  Neither is appropriate, both are childish and both are wrong.  The BS that happens over there will continue to happen over and over again unless/until common decency is applied to every member, every thread and every post.

It's a sad state of affairs that decency has to be 'requested'.  Why isn't decency part of an adults' MO?  I know we all have different backgrounds, but for the love of goodness.....what in the world has happened to just common decency?

I will agree that Deecan was pointed, direct and passionate about her posts.  BUT....I never saw any tit for tat until others provoked it.  Why do people so struggle with managing emotions when faced with a different style of 'speech'?   

[DeeCan]

But that dude that suggested 'women aren't leaders' should just be shot.  (Figuratively). 

Why does it have to be figuratively?   

I will agree that Deecan was pointed, direct and passionate about her posts.  BUT....I never saw any tit for tat until others provoked it.  Why do people so struggle with managing emotions when faced with a different style of 'speech'?

Thank you for noticing. 

As for why they struggle...that doesn't happen everywhere.  It's just that some forums seem to draw those who believe "My way or the highway" and they are hell bent on forcing their views on everyone.  When the newbies don't believe as they do, they suddenly feel the need to bash the hell out of them until they do.  Me, personally, I saw a great opportunity to try to beat my beliefs into them.  Quite frankly, the majority of the posters there were ripe for the pickin'.   

What I found was that, most likely, most of those posters in real life would be the ones who, when things didn't go there way, they went crying to someone.  They are the types that create the dumbing down of America's children through education (Little Johnny got a D in science and can't play football...waaa! waaa!), create ungodly judgments in frivilous lawsuits (that coffee is hot??!!), and, even though they don't realize it, keep big business like eBay in business because they whine about being done wrong instead of packing up and finding somewhere else to spend their consumer dollars.

Ok, I gotta stop....I feeling the need to slap someone again.  And, well, I like you guys. 

[2boysandtoys]

Deecan - I have 2 teenagers - ripe for the slapping....want one/two/both?  I'll pay ya to take them and then pay more for the slap!!! 

I 'hear' you and do agree.  I see posts at PSU and other forums and I swear at times....I smack myself in the forehead and wonder - what the he!! are ya thinking?  If I care or it's a subject of interest, I might indulge and being a dialog.  If it's an obvious ISA, I ignore and move on.

ISA = Idiot Seeking Attention

In my 'mind' - which is numpty most days, but not dumb at all - attacking issues, policies, sites, rules, etc. is expected.  After all, last I checked, we are in America and are taught to look for opportunity.  When those who can't debate fashionably or intelligently resort to junior high name calling and 'other'  - I believe conscientiously or not - they are seeking ATD.

ATD = Attention Thru Drama

What better way to distract a great debate than to sling mud?  We see it in our government debates; we see it in our political debates.  We see it in debate class in HS.  It's a strategy to make people think about what is said, what they are saying and how it is all processed.

So - why do the SMP have to deter from the issue/discussion at hand, and get all dramatic over an opposing position?  I read all your posts and while my style of writing is different, I was capable of pulling out the intent and pondering it - without calling you a name or discussing your panties...

SMP = Simple Minded People

What happened to you has happened over and over again at PSU.  Good, bad or indifferent - right/wrong, it does often appear that those who whine loudest can't stand any voice that opposes.  I truly 'wish' it were different, but the pattern is there and has been there.

If I were to speculate as to when it started --- 2 sites, neither respected in the OAI, have volunteers that chose to personalize any issues with the site.  Once 'it' - no matter what 'it' is is personalized, they put the blinders on, and march forward to destroy any person who has an issue or complaint about that site.  If you had the time and read thru some of those posts - there's a real lesson is psychology. 

They troll and suggest 'all others' are not telling the truth and continue to create drama and conflict where ever they go.  They go from forum to forum until folks not only avoid them, but ignore them.  UNTIL - they find solace in each other - in a trash bin no less.   

These types are textbook examples of low self-worth and low self-esteem.  They begin to become 'one' with their cause, even when their cause is material vs. human or value-based.  They become so entrenched in having their personal value and self-worth tied to their cause, they truly wouldn't see the truth if it were taped to their forehead. 

The good news - with 10k members at PSU, most are NOT this way.  The bad news - the paved path has already been set; changing the culture and having the focus be business vs. emotions - hard to do with status quo.

   for letting me 'share'!!!

[The Bar Keep]

Dear PSUNITARD,

Haven't seen much of psunitard today, must still be recovering from the beat down I gave his ballessness last night. Still no response to my emails sent to him asking him to make a statement against Sexism in the OAI. Seems like a no brainer to me but who am I to stand in the way of stupidity.

Oh yeah, how is that boycott going? 11 hours 30 minutes until the fee structure changes and not even so much as a ding to eBay. Watch the count start to rise late tonight and tomorrow as the people who took the time to rationalize the fee changes start to list at a discounted rate.

Invest in yourself before you invest in others, but whatever you do don't invest in a PSU store!!!! Buggy is being nice!!!


Joe - The Bar keep

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